The deputy national publicity secretary of the All Progressives Congress (APC) Timi Frank, had during a live current affairs programme at African Independent Television (AIT), Focus Nigeria, on Monday, June 29, 2015, said that his party should be thankful to the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) for not hijacking the senate presidency from the party, Daily Sun reports.
There are the excerpts from the interview
APC should be grateful to the PDP that we got the Senate Presidency. They (PDP) could have nominated themselves to be Senate President and Deputy Senate President; and you cannot take that from them.
We should thank PDP for what they did, for being democratic. They knew they were not in the ruling party, so they respected themselves by making sure an APC Senate President emerged. They unanimously gave their support to Bukola Saraki since we only had about seven or eight APC Senators in the Senate as at the time.
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I see no reason anybody should blame Saraki for what has happened. We should be happy that he was there to, at least, save the situation at that time. If he wasn’t there, the situation could have been different.
What and who took 51 senators to International Conference Centre?
The question we should be asking is: Who asked 51 senators to go to the International Conference Centre? What did they go there to do? I don’t know who called for that meeting, as a party man. We should not blame Saraki for becoming Senate President. We should put the blame on the party and whosoever that called that meeting. Has the president come out to tell Nigerians that he called for a meeting but Senator Saraki wasn’t there? Even the president wasn’t at the International Conference Centre. Why did you expect Saraki to be there?
Everybody is saying that the president called (for a meeting), the president called; okay, who gave the directive for the meeting. So, this is the big question; the very critical question we should be asking.
For God’s sake, what must have dragged 51 senators to the International Conference Centre? They should be asking themselves what took them there. As far as I am concerned, this is the way God has designed it. So, we shouldn’t question God.
Any deal between Saraki and PDP?
To the best of my knowledge, this is a contest between two political leaders in the same party. Both of them were banking on the support of PDP Senators, because APC Senators alone could not have made them Senate President. What happened was a victory for democracy, a victory for the people. You can’t take it away. The Senate or House (of Representatives) is an independent House. These people decide on what they want. They go for what they are comfortable with.
What about Ekweremadu’s emergence as Deputy Senate President?
On the issue of how Ekweremadu emerged as the Deputy Senate President, for God’s sake, PDP felt that, well, we had given them the Senate Presidency unanimously. We are not trying to be greedy. We are trying to respect democracy.
One of the APC Senators that was present contested alongside Ekweremadu but lost. Not that they just asked Ekweremadu to be the Deputy Senate President. No! It was live on TV. PDP senators were more in number. So, they voted for one of their own. At the end of the day, Ekweremadu emerged as the Deputy President of the Senate.
Are you upset with your party?
I am upset. My party caused our loss of Deputy Senate Presidency. How I wish all the senators were there, there is no way we wouldn’t have got the Deputy Senate Presidency. We don’t need to be blaming Ekweremadu and so forth. If it were anybody from my party or even myself, I would take advantage of the situation that was on ground.
Today, the man is Deputy Senate President to Saraki. But he is just a Deputy Senate President. What can he do to frustrate my party? There is nothing he can do, because we have an active Senate President.
God has done his part. We can’t question God. So, my party should live with it. They can also come up with whatever strategy they feel like. But, Ekweremadu didn’t just put himself there. My party caused it. So, we should accept the defeat.
I think we should not have gotten involved in the whole drama in the first place. Saraki is a member of the APC. Senator Lawan is a member of the APC. Everyone involved is a member of the APC. No one is more loyal to the party than the other. But as a party, we have not done well. We treated Dogara and Saraki as if they were half-casts of the party.
What is your take on the issue of principal officers?
This whole internal crises, the party leadership caused it. In the process of trying to take sides, we misfired. The party zoned the Senate Leader to the North East. Fine! But the party should have left it at that, not saying a particular person has to be this. As soon as the party zoned the office, the party should have left it for the zone to come up with the candidate. Like Ahmed Lawan, if the party had not gone ahead to stick out his name, maybe they would have gone ahead to say, Senator Ahmed lost the Senate President seat, let us leave this for him. But again, the party provoked the people of that zone by writing names.
What Nigerians are trying to say is this: the issue of godfatherism is gone. The issue of saying this must happen is gone. The independence of the House and Senate is what we need. There is no way Saraki could have read the party’s letter. The majority voice in that zone had already written to say this is whom we want. The party must accept failure at this point in time and build from the mistakes we have made.
What happens to party supremacy?
I agree that party supremacy has come to stay. But again, since party supremacy is now the issue of the day, I expect the national leadership to write the list of ministers and their portfolios and give to the President to announce. The state party chairmen must write the names of the commissioners and SAs and give to the state governors to announce. That way, we will know that party supremacy has come to stay. Not just to enforce it on the Senate and House of Representatives. Otherwise they should allow the Senate to be. They should also allow the House of Representative to be.
There are the excerpts from the interview
APC should be grateful to the PDP that we got the Senate Presidency. They (PDP) could have nominated themselves to be Senate President and Deputy Senate President; and you cannot take that from them.
We should thank PDP for what they did, for being democratic. They knew they were not in the ruling party, so they respected themselves by making sure an APC Senate President emerged. They unanimously gave their support to Bukola Saraki since we only had about seven or eight APC Senators in the Senate as at the time.
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I see no reason anybody should blame Saraki for what has happened. We should be happy that he was there to, at least, save the situation at that time. If he wasn’t there, the situation could have been different.
What and who took 51 senators to International Conference Centre?
The question we should be asking is: Who asked 51 senators to go to the International Conference Centre? What did they go there to do? I don’t know who called for that meeting, as a party man. We should not blame Saraki for becoming Senate President. We should put the blame on the party and whosoever that called that meeting. Has the president come out to tell Nigerians that he called for a meeting but Senator Saraki wasn’t there? Even the president wasn’t at the International Conference Centre. Why did you expect Saraki to be there?
Everybody is saying that the president called (for a meeting), the president called; okay, who gave the directive for the meeting. So, this is the big question; the very critical question we should be asking.
For God’s sake, what must have dragged 51 senators to the International Conference Centre? They should be asking themselves what took them there. As far as I am concerned, this is the way God has designed it. So, we shouldn’t question God.
Any deal between Saraki and PDP?
To the best of my knowledge, this is a contest between two political leaders in the same party. Both of them were banking on the support of PDP Senators, because APC Senators alone could not have made them Senate President. What happened was a victory for democracy, a victory for the people. You can’t take it away. The Senate or House (of Representatives) is an independent House. These people decide on what they want. They go for what they are comfortable with.
What about Ekweremadu’s emergence as Deputy Senate President?
On the issue of how Ekweremadu emerged as the Deputy Senate President, for God’s sake, PDP felt that, well, we had given them the Senate Presidency unanimously. We are not trying to be greedy. We are trying to respect democracy.
One of the APC Senators that was present contested alongside Ekweremadu but lost. Not that they just asked Ekweremadu to be the Deputy Senate President. No! It was live on TV. PDP senators were more in number. So, they voted for one of their own. At the end of the day, Ekweremadu emerged as the Deputy President of the Senate.
Are you upset with your party?
I am upset. My party caused our loss of Deputy Senate Presidency. How I wish all the senators were there, there is no way we wouldn’t have got the Deputy Senate Presidency. We don’t need to be blaming Ekweremadu and so forth. If it were anybody from my party or even myself, I would take advantage of the situation that was on ground.
Today, the man is Deputy Senate President to Saraki. But he is just a Deputy Senate President. What can he do to frustrate my party? There is nothing he can do, because we have an active Senate President.
God has done his part. We can’t question God. So, my party should live with it. They can also come up with whatever strategy they feel like. But, Ekweremadu didn’t just put himself there. My party caused it. So, we should accept the defeat.
I think we should not have gotten involved in the whole drama in the first place. Saraki is a member of the APC. Senator Lawan is a member of the APC. Everyone involved is a member of the APC. No one is more loyal to the party than the other. But as a party, we have not done well. We treated Dogara and Saraki as if they were half-casts of the party.
What is your take on the issue of principal officers?
This whole internal crises, the party leadership caused it. In the process of trying to take sides, we misfired. The party zoned the Senate Leader to the North East. Fine! But the party should have left it at that, not saying a particular person has to be this. As soon as the party zoned the office, the party should have left it for the zone to come up with the candidate. Like Ahmed Lawan, if the party had not gone ahead to stick out his name, maybe they would have gone ahead to say, Senator Ahmed lost the Senate President seat, let us leave this for him. But again, the party provoked the people of that zone by writing names.
What Nigerians are trying to say is this: the issue of godfatherism is gone. The issue of saying this must happen is gone. The independence of the House and Senate is what we need. There is no way Saraki could have read the party’s letter. The majority voice in that zone had already written to say this is whom we want. The party must accept failure at this point in time and build from the mistakes we have made.
What happens to party supremacy?
I agree that party supremacy has come to stay. But again, since party supremacy is now the issue of the day, I expect the national leadership to write the list of ministers and their portfolios and give to the President to announce. The state party chairmen must write the names of the commissioners and SAs and give to the state governors to announce. That way, we will know that party supremacy has come to stay. Not just to enforce it on the Senate and House of Representatives. Otherwise they should allow the Senate to be. They should also allow the House of Representative to be.
